Bob interviews Jason Fried, co-founder and president of 37signals and co-author of Getting Real and now REWORK. Jason is the archetype of a successful web-based software company founder (Basecamp, Highrise, Campfire, Backpack), a strong proponent for a reality-based (versus VC-funded) approach to building a tech company with a point of view, and a strong believer most of the accepted ways of doing business don’t scale down to startups.
(Note: The Startup Success Podcast is currently in reruns. This was show #63, an interview with 37signals co-founder Jason Fried, originally released April 8th, 2010.)
In this interview, we dig into not just Jason and David Heinemeier Hansson’s new book about the business of startups, but why and how they arrived at 37signals’ successful approach to building a software company. Jason generously shares a range of advice and experience about building your startup that is anything but a rehash of all the other advice you’ve heard.
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URLs mentioned/relevant to this show:
- REWORK.
- 37signals main site.
- Rework at Amazon (affiliate link).
- 37signals’ blog, Signal vs. Noise.
- The 37signals manifesto.









An old one, but a good one. Interesting to hear Jason Fried speak. His views are quite contrarian but totally relevant. The story highlights that building a following and a successful business take time.
Bob, well done at presenting a startup podcast when the guest disagrees with the label ‘startup’!